And about a year later, he really had put pen to paper, and sent me this incredibly crafted and funny and just really cool script that was a pilot of Poker Face. So I think we just really fell for each other creatively. And in Rian, I really found this kindred spirit of doing this whole other game. Here I was, really doing more existential, psychedelic, philosophical puzzle boxes that were about the nature of self, sort of like a character on their own case.
And we sort of talked about our shared love of noir and all the different ways in which that can go, and I don't think I really knew all the way yet that Rian was kind of the master of that entire arena.